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Dental Spray, Does It Work?
Has anyone had any experience with "dental sprays" or "dental gels" for dogs? My dog has a couple of health problems and I don't want to put him under for a dental cleaning. So far his teeth are pretty good with only a little bit of tartar. I heard that "Leba Lab III" spray works well but is expensive, has anyone here used it? I heard there are a couple of dental gels too. I don't remember their names. If someone has information and is willing to share it I'd be most grateful.
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I've been curious about these sprays, too. My old cranky dog hates everything and never would let me mess with her mouth-she even hates to be brushed and is always shedding by the handful. I have to give her a few swipes as i walk by. what dog doesn't love to be brushed? anyhow-she's had to have teeth pulled in the past few years-she's 11 or 12. I think her teeth are starting to bother her and I hate to put them through it again-the vets, that is. she really is mean. i have to go in the back and stay with her until she's knocked-out. i'm told to pick her up after 5:00, but they call around noon, begging me to come and get her NOW. what an ordeal!
i just stumbled upon a site endorsing a dental spray that contains NO ALCOHOL called DentaSure. it's expensive, but i might try it.
good luck with your dogs choppers!
As with most issues, getting to the root of a cause is, at times, challenging. Dental issues will not resolve themselves, and if you have waited until the dog's breath is overwhelming, then you have waited too long to address the problem. At this point, you need to have the professional dental cleaning. Some preexistent conditions will play a role in the dogs's dental health: poor immune health, poor quality diet, and disease such as diabetes. Many conditions can be helped by a higher quality diet that would in turn improve the immune system. Fourteen years ago, after educating myself about the commercial pet food industry, I started to cook for my cats and dogs. In my area, you cannot find a quality food in grocery or variety stores. The key factors in food selection are education, reading food ingredient labels, and not blindly trusting products just because the company name is well known: Neither Science Diet, Iams, Purina, Ol Roy, Beneful, and others are quality pet foods. Animals are usually subjected to eating the same thing every day for their entire lives. They are doomed to poor physical and dental health because their immune system's are in poor health--poor health leads to poor health.
You didn't answer the question! You went on an on about what causes dental problems. The question was, "Do dental sprays and gels work?" Stay on the subject, please. I had the same question and your reply was useless to me!
1st sentance in LebaIII advertisement describes death of a patient during a routine dental procedure (no history of patient/health/laboratory/anesthetic protocol,etc). Any product ad that begins with a scare tactic should be carefully examined. This product claims to protect other dogs from what happened to this patient. First, dental disease is caused by PLAQUE, not tartar. Plaque, then tartar, below the gumline is the real culprit and can only be dealt with by hand scaling or ultrasonic scaling. We humans tolerate the procedure, pets do not, therefore anesthetic is required to do an adequate job. Those who claim anesthetic free cleaning are being charged a tremendous fee for something that has virtually no value other than appearance. Let's use common sense here, if people that brush several times per day, floss, still require dental prohphlaxis every 6 months, how could you believe a water spray with some herbs/alcohol would solve virtually the same problem in a pet. Please ask you dentist what they think of a product like this!!!
Just found your post from a few years ago. How did that stuff work on your dogs teeth ? We have one yorkie who has a bad problem. We just had his teeth cleaned 5 months ago and just had to do it again. This is getting to be expensive to say the least.
Gene
banjoguy12701@yahoo.com
My vet prescribed Leba III for our 10 yo Greyhound who had kidney disease plus dental disease. The dog could not undergo anesthesia. Then I started using it on my other 3 dogs. It really works well. No teeth cleaning at all in over a year. It is expensive but gets much cheaper if you buy more at one time plus it has a 10 year shelf life. It has 25% ordinary alcohol (like vodka) but after the first month or so, you only use one small spray per day. Everyone says no, no to Listerine which is 21.6% alcohol. I don't know why. If you put it in a spray bottle like Leba lab's, I don't think one spray would be swallowed. I am reluctant to try Listerine even though other people say it is fine. It is not approved for dogs and cats.
I read an article this month I think in Parade and it said there are drops you add to your dog's water to prevent plaque build up. My 4 y.o. Dachshund is having a cleaning 10/3, and when I asked the vet about them, of course they never heard of it. But, I found it (I think) on Google and it's called Biotene and it's $14 on Amazon. I'm gonna get it. My chihuahua doesn't get the build up and breath like my Dachshund does. It's supposed to be a 60 day supply. If it works, I'll be thrilled. Cleanings are so expensive!
First, the active ingredient in these products is alcohol, which can be dangerous to some pets, especially with liver and kidney disease. I wouldn't want alcohol sprayed on my gums if they were inflamed. Second, if these products really worked, why wouldn't the companies go after the big bucks and sell them for humans? Hmmmm....
Also, the dental disease that affects other parts of the body and causes tooth is below the gum line, so all of those "dental scrapers" doing "cleanings" are missing the most important area of disease.
Umm....they do sell dental products that are mainly alcohol to people. It is called mouthwash
I've not used any of the other brands listed above. I have, however, used a product called Canine Mouth Drops. Its like a herbal mouth wash for dogs and also freshens their breath too! I love it and my dogs loves it!dental problems treatment
I tried Leba III for over a year on my dog and PetzLife gel for over 8 months. He didn't mind Leba IIIs taste but hated PetzLife. I would say there was only a small difference and neither of them helped that much. :(
Hello,
Does anyone know the side effects of Tropiclean Gel on canine kidney failure? I read that it contains grain alcohol.
I hope to get an answer soon.
Thank you
My dog has the worst breath in the world and the cost of getting his teeth cleaned is too much. I saw PlaqueAttack on TV, and I want to order it, but I found that some people thought it was a scam, and there were mixed reviews. I really need something quick to save me from this stench, have you guys ever tried plaqueattack? does it work? Thank you!
My dog gets raw veggies, lean meats, top quality dog kibble and chlorophyll with grape seed in it. It is like giving him a blood transfusion, cleans his system including bad breath.
hmmm. I thought grapes were dangerous for dogs??
I use Pet Life Oral Care Spray form Natural Pets in Boulder CO and the vets say my pommawawa has the best gums and teeth for his age, 13. And...he is still in need of a prof. dental cleaning.
I understand cleaning their teeth is expensive but it is imperative to their health. If you have not been cleaning them then they need to get cleaned and you can then go to products to keep them clean. Your dog could get heart disease - this isn't about YOU needing a quick fix for their breath. It's for them. Don't you think their teeth hurt just like yours? Look, I don't make a lot of money either but please skip a couple of new jeans, find a cheaper vet, eat a can of tuna fish for lunch, anything... but save up and get them cleaned. Their life will be greatly shortened if you are worried merely about your own embarrassment or comfort.
I just had my dog's teeth cleaned two months ago, and the vet said he's already building up plaque. He hates having me use the doggie toothbrush. I have no problem paying the money ($500!) to get his teeth cleaned every two years, but 1) they shouldn't be building up plaque after two months and 2) the fewer times he has to go under anesthesia, the better. Has anybody found anything that worked?
End of August 2010 my dog Cody and I went for a walk, we came home, I was so proud of this 14 year old poop! Then he laid in the grass, trembled for quite some time. That's when it all began. It was touch and go for some time and he made it!
October he had majority of teeth removed. The rotting teeth made him septic, nearly killed him. His kidneys were nearly destroyed. He gets 150 ml of Ringers Lactate 5-6 out of 7 days a week. He hates the "kidney diet" food the vet gives so I read up on it and do my own. He also gets Mylanta, 1 teaspoon, once or twice a day depending to bind the phosphorous and remove it with the extra fluids.
Because I failed to part with the $$ for necessary dental care he suffers. I say bite the bullet, get it done. If he is older do a complete blood panel and see the condition of his body BEFORE going under surgery. Anesthesia for an older animal could kill him. Blood work tells you what you are dealing with.
Just like humans if you let your teeth go it will ruin your heart, kidnesy, and liver. Will wreck your body. Do what you can. It's not cheap but rest assured you will know you did all you could and aleviate his toothaches. You are the dog's only hope, your call, you are the dog-parent and only one who can get him help.
Maybe there is a vet school in the area where you may get a discount; or buy clothes from Salvation ARmy for a while to off set the cost. This is part of being an animal parent.
I would highly recommend you get some labs done...same with my dog, Cody.
Had many teeth removed. Six months later smell started to return, I tried brushing, etc (no sprays or gels) ended up within 2 years of many teeth removed I caused his current kidney failure situation due to the teeth were beyond cleaning, made him sick, septic, and he now has 25% of his kidney function. "We" are on Ringers Lactate 150 ml once a day for the rest of his life, and if you know anything about it, make sure you use 1 1/2 inch 20 gauge needle and go just under all layers of the skin to get the fluid into him.
Letting the teeth go will not only affect heart, liver, but literally ruin the kidneys; same a humans. If you let your teeth go and rot it will kill you. If you need to do a loan to get those teeth cleand DO IT! Cody has lasted about 1 year, but is loosing the battle. He was 28 pounds and now 12. What does your pet mean to you? I love my dog like he was a child and will do what I can afford. Avoid all this hastle and do the dental and don't put it off.
Many sites on internet on dog oral care, teeth cleaning, you may even have a school in your area for a reduced rate. If he is older, do the labs to make sure he will make it thru the anesthesia. Odds were very high agaisnt Cody makig it. It will be 1 year from the major extractions in October.
I have used Leba Lab 111. Check out the website. It is really easy to use and is a natural product.
Hi there,
This is in response to the fellow up there who mentioned difficulty getting close to the mouth area in handling the dog. I was aware that this may happen with my German shepherd so began handling his feet, playing with his teeth and mouth and engaging in play and petting since I got him as a three month old. He is now a whopping 70 lbs at 7 months only and estimated to grow up to 120+ according to his breeder due to his lineage. I'm at least relieved to report that he is exceptionally calm, tolerant and actually quite regal while I brush his teeth every other day. I have been brushing his teeth like this at least three to four times a week. His teeth are pearly white.
Although most things are hard at the beginning and introducing the finger toothbrush and odd tasting stuff early on was no exception, I must say: keep at it. It will pay off. I was very nervous too at first but stayed the course. It was pure horror at the thought that a 120+ lbs dog would be uncontrollable, misbehaved and worse, with bad teeth or breath that steeled my nerves. He's a hit at the vets. Do not waver. Do your research early and set out the right routines and habits and your pet will grow into these good habits. Be the leader he or she looks to you to be! Brush early and don't lapse. Best wishes. J
I have two small dogs and they sqirm out my hands anytime I have a tooth brush or finger brush, never tried wash cloth. The taste is OK of toothpaste; they don't hate it, think it's a treat. They try to lick it off and run away or sqirm out of my hands. I got to the point where I just let them lick it off my fingers and try to get it on their fronts. (Vet said that's better than nothing and MAYBE some day they'd let me.) BUT even when they were puppy's they wouldn't let me clean their teeth and have always hated their paws played with. I can't do my one's nails to this day and she's 8 now. I don't think you understood the question, it's to late to go back and some dogs just don't like it. The question was what do we do now and do these products work not what should we have done when they were puppies.
Plus, it's one thing to have a 10lb dog that is agressive when you try to open their mouth and force something down it and a whole different story when a 80lb dog does it. Good for you.....next time, write an answer to the question.
I'm going to try them; sounds like they've worked few people! :)
I have read about people here trying to find alternatives to the dental cleaning procedure done by vets.
I hope to find an althernative also because of not wanting the anesthesia for an older dog.
I do think cleaning is fine (with all the pre-op testing) for younger dogs.
And this is only my experience that happened and not mean't to dissuade people.
I truly regret having my 16 year old dog get the professional pet cleaning, which when combined with the pre op blood work and best procedures (not the cheap checklist they provide) and the additional costs for pulled teeth - that sure adds up, I was quite expenditured out. But was going to be worth it for her health.
Or so I thought and that was represented to me.
She already had slightly compromised kidneys and the anesthesia can be hard on them (found this out later). She got a uti and had to be put on antibiotics. Then would not drink and they had to pump her full of water because of dehydration.
She died weeks after this procedure.
Plus I had the pay the additional costs due to all the complications.
Ask your vet to explain any complications and a list of the expense chart for that!
Not to mention the suffering of my dog.
Never again on an much older dog.
No reason to use anesthesia on dogs to clean their teeth. There is anesthesia-free cleaning and I had it done today on my 3 and 6-year old cavaliers. It took 15 minutes at a local pet store, a vet was present (which was great since one of my doges had a mild case of gingivitis and they sent me home with antibiotics). Cost was $125 (in Los Angeles) so it was also a lot cheaper than taking him into the vets for anesthesia/cleaning. I can't recommend this process highly enought. I'm taking my dogs in every 6 months going forward.
Can you provide the name of the pet store please? I'd like to call them and ask about the product they use. I have mini-schnauwer that has always had problems with his gums. I take him to the vet regularly for teeth-cleaning and would welcome another alternative. Thanks for sharing about your find!
Be careful of Lebalab III, Plaque Attack, and any other product that contains any kind of alcohol (ethyl, grain, etc.). Dogs and cats cannot metabolize the alcohol so it can be very dangerous. Check out side effects and emergency procedures for alcohol poisoning in dogs...
http://www.aspcabehavior.org/articles/71/Foods-That-Are-Hazardous-to-Dog...
http://www.vetinfo.com/alcohol-poisoning-dogs.html
AT
I have used both Leba III and the PetzLife gel and still struggle to clear my dog's teeth of tartar. I think it depends on your dog's mouth chemistry. I have seen an improvement using both (not at the same time) but it took 6+ months, not 30 days. Still, it is a good choice rather than put my very old dog under for teeth cleaning.
hello I read your comment and thought I would share my experience I have a now 13 year old pom her teeth were really bad I did not realize how important teeth were to health. She became very ill and I almost lost her she had 5 teeth pulled and had her teeth cleaned while under. It took about two weeks before she was back to running like the wind and 1 year and three months later she is doing great but getting back to why I am really writing Tina just had a non anastetic dental I cancelled the first two appointents because of my own fears but after talking to my vet who's own senior dog gets this procedure I knew it was best for tina. Tina came out smiling with pearly whites and an excellent report. The people who started this are out of california and they travel to florida and some other states. I am taking my 10 year old adopted pom may 20th it is not as expensive and when a pet is older the risks are far less so I hope this will help in some way take care.
I have a 16 year old Yorkie who has lost 4 lbs and I believe it is because of his teeth. I just came from the vet and blood work was going to cost $110.00 and then $350.00 for the procedure. If they need to remove teeth, that is additional. I love my dog, but I cannot afford this procedure and I'm worried about putting him under at his age. You said you used 2 different products and since you have a older dog, I was wondering which one you think worked best. I want to help Max, and I feel guilty that I can't afford the professional cleaning. Anything you can tell me about either product would be greatly appreciated. Thank you, Cat
Yorkies are NORTORIOUS for bad teeth. I lost my almost 15 yr old yorkie because of mouth/teeth issues. I felt horrible. Like humans, prevention is the best way. The earlier the better. I have my female yorkies puppy, that I kept from her litter After I had to put my ol Girl down, I had him into the vet in the next 2 DAYS to pull teeth and help him to live long.**ANIMAL LOVERS****** start brushing your pets teeth early on... My girl Yorkie wouold have been here a couple more years. I still can't forgive myself, for not caring for her teeth...I did'nt know any better...NOW YOU DO.... Your PET WILL DIE FROM BAD TEETH...BEWARE, START PREVENITIVE CARE, as early as possible. DR Oz, just HAD a Guest Vet on his show, There is PET ORAL RINSES, You can put in their water, This Vet said, Just that alone, would give your pet 80% chance more of never having teeth problems...God Bless all of you who love and care for your animals. I Hope this helps. TODAYS DATE....JUNE 2011
CANINE CARE AND APOLLO PET CARE provide ANESTHESIA FREE teeth cleaning for pets. Used vet teeth cleaning in the past & nearly killed my dogs. Never again. Used Canine Care in 2010 to clean 8yr. old Chihuahua's really bad teeth. After Canine Care cleaning, his teeth were like new. I do not work for them. Just started using Tropiclean gel as maintenance to keep gingivitis away. Look for "Canine Care" or "anesthesia free teeth cleaning for pets" on web for your area. Your pets will be healthy and alive!
There are plenty of new products that are great toys or snacks, and are specifically made to help with dog dental care.
Make sure to use a dog-formulated toothpaste, and consider a toothpaste that's flavored with his favorite food. Your dog may trust your finger more than he'd trust a plastic stick - and for that, there are finger brushes, but with that, there's the risk of being bitten while your dog enjoys the liver-flavored toothpaste. The toothpaste will last you a long time, since it only takes a tiny pellet-sized amount for each brushing.
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The 15 yr. old cat probably needs some teeth pulled. My 12 yr. old cat had 4 more teeth pulled and a dental cleaning this week. I was using Petzlife but he acted like he hated it and it ended up the vet found he had a tooth with a completely rotten root so he probably just had tooth pain. If the teeth need pulling none of that stuff will help.
I was using petzlife on my 2 dogs (Lacey age 2 with some tartar) (Sandy age 8 with a fair bit of tartar especially on back molars). I used it for about a year and it did seem to work on our older dog but not at all on the younger one. Lacey is not a fan of the taste and hates when i use it...Sandy lets me do anything. Anyway...it was quite expensive at 35$ a bottle (since im only 16 and dont have a job) so i decided to try another product called Tropiclean clean teeth gel. It has the same active ingredient plus Chlorophyllin to sooth gum irritations. Only at 20$ plus you get a bonus water additive.It is fairly easy to administer even with the fussy one. I put it on before I go to bed and have seen some changes in Sandy and Lacey and its only been a few weeks!!!
I use Plaque & Tarter control for my pets sold by a company called Petlane. hope this helps
Not at all. You never answered the question.
Hi everyone,
i am desperately seeking solutions.
my 15 year old cat has peridontal disease: lumps of hardened tartar that have engulfed her molars, inflamed gums that make eating painful and her waking hours miserable, and probably the onset of infection that, untreated, will spread to her internal organs and kill her. trouble is, nobody can tell how long the death will take, and how long she has to bear the pain.
she is currently on antibiotics and prednisolone steroid anti-inflammatory/painkiller.
being so old, and with mild kidney disease, she will probably not survive the general anaethesia needed for dental procedures. only other option vet gave me was diet of antibiotics + painkillers...and wait. it will be an agonizing wait for me and her. and at some point the meds will stop working and the disease will be so advanced we will have no choice but to put her down. i will hate that. she currently still has the desire to live so i want to help her do that even though options are heartbreakingly limited.
so i'm wondering if Leba III can help even in such dire cases as hers. can it dissolve that much tartar, and even get to the stuff below the gumline?
is it safe to use if her gums are inflamed? i don't want to squirt it in her mouth only for her to scream in pain, get burns, and i find i did more damage than good :'(
will her body/oral chemistry have been altered by the meds she's currently on, making Leba ineffective?
a lot of users have said Leba III "works". does anyone whose pet has had as severe tartar as my cat's have any feedback to offer?
thank you for any helpful answers
sincerely and anxiously.
adelynn
(singapore)
Hi Adelynn. I am so sorry to hear about your cat. I have tried Leba on my dog who has thick tartar on his molars plus on his other teeth about halfway up the tooth by the gumline. It took much longer than it says to start working. He has been on it for around 6 months and in the last month I have noticed some of the tartar has come off.
If your cat is anything like my dog then unforutunately I don't think it will be a quick solution. Maybe you could bring a bottle of Leba to your vet and ask him what he thinks. Unforutunately sometimes it is best to let our pets go to prevent suffering. They leave us much too soon. Good luck.
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I ordered some of the dental spray that was advertised on TV. I've never had any problem ordering items advertised on TV before. I ordered two bottles of the spray and declined the bottles of anti-scratch gel. The charge should have been $40.00 plus shipping and handling. My bank account shows a charge of $107!!!! I have been unable to get in contact with the company that processes the sales of the products, EPI, which stands for Exceptional Products _______. Don't remember the last one. I will continue to try and reach them. Meanwhile, I wanted to forewarn.
hi,
I am just a pet owner not a veterinarian. I think if anyone's pet has any dental problem then one should take it to a veterinarian for the examination. Without proper examination and prescription, using any product whether it is a dental spray or any dental gel would not be a good idea.
As precautions are better than medicine; give your pet the food that also protects it's teeth from developing tartar and plaque.
For your information I am listing down here a couple of the famous products available in the market: TropiClean Teeth Gel Kit, Vets Dental Care Gel.
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Regards,
Ronnie Williams
Dentist in Diamond Bar
We've also been trying to brush our 2yr old Yellow Lab. He actually is very good about staying put while we attempt to brush his chompers, unfortunately he also LOVES the toothpaste we're using and thinks he's getting a treat! We've been trying to get him to understand that tooth-brushing time is not SNACK time...to limited success. I'm wondering if we'd have more success with the spray, might have to give it a shot!
Cheers!
-Booker
Puppy Training
I have used Leba Lab III for almost 5 months now with my dog and I have to agree that it definitely does work.
Terry
Hermit Crab Types
I have used the spray for a year or so, but I asked other Oakland County Dog Trainers and they were separated with this option. A lot of the older trainers still live by the good ol' teeth brushing. I think it really depends on your own preference.
Hi, I've been using it a few months and I do see a difference in the amount of tartar and especially the extra benefit of nicer smelling breath! There is not much info on the Internet about it but their website, lebalab.com, says it contains the following: Distilled water, Ethyl alcohol 25%, Lamiaceae and Rosaceae in trace elements. I spray it into the cap and use the provided eyedropper to squirt some into the dogs' mouths. My dogs are very small, but I would think the cost becomes a bit prohibitive for treating larger dogs.
I wonder why they can't develop something that simple for humans?
You can try Petzlife, which is half of the price of Leba Lab III. I have started using it on my dog and it has really improved her breathe. I'm assuming the tartar takes time. If possible try to brush your dog's teeth. If you can't, try a wet washcloth and wrap it around your finger. It's a matter of your dog getting used to the routine, and of course lots of praise and perhaps a treat when your finished! :)
You should look at your dog's food as well. There is special food specifically for dental issues. Talk to your vet. Good luck!
I tried Petzlife and was impressed with the results. It is only short term though. I give my dog, bones from the butcher (non-splintering) and they do a great job with her breath and tarter. Her teeth wear down more though.
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I've not used any of the other brands listed above. I have, however, used a product called Canine Mouth Drops. Its like a herbal mouth wash for dogs and also freshens their breath too! I love it and my dogs loves it!
I want to try Petzlife, recommended by a dog trainer, for my cats. I also want to recommend most Royal Canin dry cat foods. My small cat has always been frail and afraid of people (except me). I have been reluctant to take her to the vet. The Royal Canin #33, for intestinal health, saved her life. As an added benefit, her breath is fresh. I give it as treats to my 3 cats. It's a little more expensive, but they love it as a treat, so it lasts a long time. It has dental health ingredients, and is very healthy all around. Every formula I have used helps their sinuses, intestines and teeth. Of course, if the pet is older, I'm not sure if they'd be able to chew it, but the intestinal formula is pretty soft, and they have one for older pets (maybe could mash it up)
My friend has a small dog and she has been using Leba III for over 4 months now. There has been a small difference in the amount of tartar on her dog's teeth but there is still quite a bit of tartar. On the other hand, I have been using Leba III for about 7 weeks now and there is a noticeable difference on my dog's teeth. The tartar is not completely gone but probably around 70% gone. I'm pretty happy with that.
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